John Deere 2840 Hyraulics Problems:
Tractor came in with multiple
hydraulic problems.
Many components of the hydraulic system were contaminated by metal shavings
from the braking system.
The information presented here is our findings on this particular tractor
and are not necessarily your hydraulic problems.
First what needs explained is that the transmission pump that supplies the
main pump with pressure gets it's oil from a screen in the rear end of the
tractor. This screen is the only protection for the tranmission charge pump.
If this screen becomes plugged, the main charge pump will not supply oil to
the main pump, pto brake, pto clutch, three point hitch, steering or
remotes. There also is the main filter to consider. If the hydaulic
filter it plugged, the charge pump through a filter relief valve, dumps the
oil from the charge pump back into the rear end/transmission cavity. Oil
flows from the long screen through the charge pump and onto the outer part
of the main filter. It then travels through the outside of the filter to
inside the filter and up the tube to the transmission cover where the oil is
distributed to the PTO clutch, PTO brake and main hydraulic pump.
A hydraulic priority valve then allows oil to circulate to the power
steering and brakes. If the priority valve does not recieve at least 1,800
lbs of pressure, it doesn't allow the control spool inside to provide oil to
the three point or the SCV remote valve. As soon as the pressure pasts 1,800
pounds of pressure, it move the spool further into the priority valve
housing allowing oil to flow to the three point and SCV remotes.
First of all when diagnosing this system, you must pull the lower screen
beside the main filter out and inspect it for debris and damage. Then you
must replace the hydraulic filter and make sure the tension spring is in the
cast iron filter cover to make sure it pushes the filter up against the rear
end housing.
Make sure you remove all plugs under the transmission and rear end housings.
On these tractors, you check the charge pressure on the side of the aluminum
transmission shift cover. If your tractor has a platform, you will need to
remove the steel plate covering the cover to expose a small plug on the
right side. This plug is your main charge pump test port. You can increase
or decrease the charge pressure by adding or removing washers in the charge
pump regulator again on the shift cover. It's a small plug on the back of
the shift cover. Also if your PTO is the problem you can easily check the
PTO clutch and PTO brake pressure off the main valve on the lower part,
right side of the transmission.
You can check your main pump pressure from the remote valve but you have to
be careful doing so. Because if someone has adjusted the metering valve in
the remote, you may get a false main pump pressure reading. Typically you
want pressure around 2,300 psi out the remote. You can also check the main
pump pressure in other locations. Main pump pressure, if your charge
pressure is good can be increased by the stroke control valve adjustment on
the bottom of the main hydraulic pump. Don't get the stroke control
adjustment confused with the destroke control. The destroke valve usually
has a "T" handle to turn it down when you don't want the pump to work at
startup. The stroke control valve is usually an allen screw. When adjusting
the stroke control valve, only turn it in (up the pressure) or out (decrease
pressure) 1/4 turn at a time. If you get the pump over 2,500 pounds of
pressure you could damage "O" rings in components of the hydraulic system.
If you have absolutely no charge pressure at the charge pressure port on the
transmission, you could possibly have a split or completely broken steel
line in the charge pump system. This also applies if you have no pressure on
the PTO ports and your PTO is not working. You must split the tractor
between the transmission and rear housing to get the to line locations.
I know this is not everything that you need to do to diagnose your problem,
however it should give you a better understanding on what to look for. This
tractor after redoing the brake system because the brake metal from the
brake plates went through the entire system, had to be flushed repeatedly.
So far we have changed the filter 7 times and the oil 6 times to remove all
the metal in the hydraulic system. We even resealed the main hydraulic pump
and replaced the filter screen in the main pump. The metal shavings also
destroyed the priority valve and the seals in the SCV valve. The SCV valve
seats also had to be reseated. There is no guarantee that this systems
problems will not come back effecting one or all of the components again.
Most common problem with metal shavings is the brake lining coming off and
now you have metal to metal. Every tractor we have done, it's the right side
that destroyed. The left side is alright at the current time, but the brake
lining is paper thin so do both brakes on the tractor to save youself a
headach down the road. It will give you piece of mind that your brakes are
in great shape. Other John Deere utility tractors have the same fate. John
Deere 2020, 2240, 2440, 2630, 2640 and others. Some tractors are utility and
others row crop with a deck. There are some changes from one tractor to the
next concerning serial numbers but the concept and problems are the same.
I sincerly hope this helps some of you who are frustrated by your tractors
hydraulic systems.
Owosso Tractor Parts sells the brake disc and brake piston new for these
tractors. Order on-line or just give us a call.
Be sure to have your tractor serial number before calling because early and
late brake systems are different.
This is the right side brake disc. You can see the fiber is
completely missing as compared to the photo on right. You can
order this disc from Owosso Tractor by clicking the part number
AL68095 or the photo.
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New Brake Piston, ring gear Not included. Part Number:
L31017
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Filter housing with metal shavings. An indication of metal on
metal.
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New Filter order
Part Number AL25554 |
Both Selective Control Valve pressure spools were damaged by the
metal running through the system. Order new Part Number:
AR86535
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